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Dec 14, 2012
Weekly Roundup

Weekly Roundup: A Solution to Seattle’s Montlake Mess

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A quick look at some of the things that happened this week in the world of cable cars, urban gondolas, and cable propelled transit:

If I could buy that right now, I would.

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  • GiorgioXT says:

    London – the site cited shows a minimum day passages of 4381 in mid-november , at a lowest fare avalaible of 3,20 £ this means 14.019 £/day

    Even without advertising revenues, this could cover the operational costs. (maybe not capital ones), a thing that could only considered a dream for other TfL systems.

  • Sean says:

    Giorgio is entirely correct. Also consider that majority of people ride the tube to and from the gondola, creating an additional revenue stream. Whether or not we agree that a public transit agency should have embarked on a project like this, there is no arguing that it is profitable.

    • Steven Dale says:

      This is something Nick and I are discussing internally. It’s such a politically dangerous project, we’re not entirely sure how to discuss it. Despite the screams of low ridership, back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest the system is going to turn a profit.

      It really does come down to a question of optics and politics. Should a transit agency be engaged in tourism? Big question.

      • GiorgioXT says:

        From a balance sheet and financial point of view, Transit agency SHOULD be engaged in tourism , since this could pay for all the rest of services that are worldwide done at a loss.

        Perfect example is Venice transport agency ACTV, where the tourist ticket – nearly six times that for “locals” makes >80% of revenues

      • Sean says:

        Not all transit agencies are created equally, and they will all will have differing mandates depending on a wide range of factors. So it is probably not advisable to lump them all together in this debate.

        As a general rule, however, I think we can probably agree that a transit agency should not engage in a tourist project that would be detrimental overall to its core mandate (whatever that may be).

        Tourism is, fundamentally, a transportation problem. Quite simply, we need to move tourists from Point A to Point B. So perhaps the question becomes: Why shouldn’t transit agency be regularly involved in “tourist” projects?

        • Matt the Engineer says:

          Also, tourism is generally a strong business generator for a city as a whole. Local governments are often asked to stimulate business in hundreds of ways, tourism being one. Go to any tourist area and you’ll see ways that the government has stepped in – from central planning of hotel districts to streetlights to sidewalks. Why not transit?

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